Zooass Forum - The Art of Shoplifting Why shop around for the best price when you can get a five finger discount whenever you want? Share your tales of thievery and shoplifting tips here.http://www.zooass.com/forum/list.php?23Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:16:12 -0500 Phorum 5.2.8 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24732,24732#msg-24732 BLACK FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (6 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24732,24732#msg-24732 barnsexxx The Art of ShopliftingThu, 19 Nov 2009 11:31:22 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24727,24727#msg-24727 Spotting LP at WallyWorld..... (2 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24727,24727#msg-24727
When I shop at Walmart near Woodland Hill’s Mall, their Loss Prevention Associate follows me. They’re not true security, they’re plain-clothed protectors of profit. Mostly, they go unrecognized and unnoticed. I, however, know how to spot them

Because I’m tired of their suspicion over me, rather than shop elsewhere, I’m going blow their cover. Here’s How to Spot a Walmart Loss Prevention Associate, or LPA:


1) Browsing Male Shoppers
Men do not browse at Walmart, not even the gay ones. Men know what they want. They walk into the store; grab their item and leave. Look for the man who casually browses, with no shopping cart.

2) Quiet Cell phone Use
The cell phone of many Walmart LPAs appears connected to the ear and palm. While it’s not unusual for people to talk on their cell phones in public, it is unusual to not hear the conversation. People are rude, loud and believe their conversation is a gift to shoppers. LPAs will quietly use cell phones to communicate with each other. It’s subtler than a walkie-talkie.

3) Cup in Hand
Most Walmart Supercenters house either a Subway or McDonald’s. If an LPA buys lunch inside Walmart, he’s likely to carry his drink through the store. It’s a natural habit to carry a drink out of a fast food restaurant. However, no one stops at Subway for a meal before a leisurely stroll through Walmart, except Jared. People normally stop on the way out.

4) Look of Intent
Shopping at Walmart requires almost no thought. There are two choices: buy the item or not buy the item. A concentrated look is not always a sign of constipation; it’s also a sign of a secret Walmart associate.

5) Dragnet Vibe
Finally, if casual eye contact with anyone translates into a mental medley of, “Dum – - – de – DUM – DUM,” then it’s probably Loss Prevention.]]> MAG The Art of ShopliftingWed, 18 Nov 2009 11:45:43 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24726,24726#msg-24726 Fry's (no replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24726,24726#msg-24726
Your Thoughts???]]> MAG The Art of ShopliftingFri, 06 Nov 2009 12:43:36 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24725,24725#msg-24725 Targets Security Manual (no replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24725,24725#msg-24725$

TARGETS SECURITY MANUAL

It will give you (S/L) a better understanding of the guide lines Loss Prevention should operate under.

Know this - Target has one of the best L/P training programs (according to L/P forums). I believe most store L/P programs fall way short of these guide lines.
For example, Target has a no chase / no harm rule - most stores have a ‘get them and beat them’ if needed rule.

Still some good info from the ‘other’ side.



…Pea…B)-]]> Pea The Art of ShopliftingFri, 06 Nov 2009 10:51:40 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24689,24689#msg-24689 Tips for Shoplifting (4 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24689,24689#msg-24689$

Tips for Shoplifting

I wanted to shorten my old post and make it a little more understandable.
If you have read the ‘Shoplifting Tips’ then you will find nothing new here.
Skip it!

If you’re here for the first time then enjoy.
I have compiled this information from my own experience and many, many different sources from the web.
I do not claim that this post is 100% correct. I am sure I have made errors.

Anything you don’t agree with - post it.

Anything you would like to add PLEASE do.



…Pea…B)-]]> Pea The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 11:46:27 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24681,24681#msg-24681 FELONY vs. MISDEMEANOR (2 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24681,24681#msg-24681$

Here is the felony threshold when it comes to shoplifting - The point at which a theft is no longer a misdemeanor (maybe no jail time) and becomes a felony (possibly facing prison!).

Here's the list for all fifty states:

$500 Alabama
$500 Alaska
$250 Arizona
$500 Arkansas
$400 California
$500 Colorado
$1,000 Connecticut
$1,000 Delaware
$300 Florida
$300 Georgia
$300 Hawaii
$1,000 Idaho
$150 Illinois
$500 Iowa
$500 Kansas
$400 Kentucky
$300 Louisiana
$1,000 Maine
$500 Maryland
$250 Massachusetts
$1,000 Michigan
$250 Minnesota
$500 Mississippi
$500 Missouri
$1,000 Montana
$500 Nebraska
$250 Nevada
$500 New Hampshire
$250 New Jersey
$250 New Mexico
$1,000 New York
$1,000 North Carolina
$500 North Dakota
$500 Ohio
$500 Oklahoma
$2,000 Pennsylvania
$500 Rhode Island
$1,000 South Carolina
$500 South Dakota
$500 Tennessee
$1,500 Texas
$1,000 Utah
$100 Vermont
$200 Virginia
$250 Washington
$250 Washington, D.C.
$500 Wyoming
$2,500 Wisconsin

GOOD LUCK!



…Pea…B)-]]> Pea The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 02:47:24 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24668,24668#msg-24668 ZOOASSFAN = A FRAUD AND A JOKE (4 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24668,24668#msg-24668$

This will no doubt be a long post,
- if I take short cuts while I’m posting it will get ‘deconstructed’ and turned around into some kind of gibberish.
- if its to long then I’m shafted for babbling and being long winded.
Dammed if I do, dammed if…


Here we go again with the childish banter that Mr. zooassfan seems to enjoy.
He has once again tried to devalue and belittle me in one of his ‘hilarious’ post. I will, like I have done before, show how inane and naïve he is. Sadly as the more he writes the easier it is to show how unenlightened and simplistic his thinking truly can be.

Zooassfan has said that he has had an interests in the shoplifting game for over 10 years and has been trolling this forum since the beginning, yet he lacks any real understanding of shoplifting. In my opinion I believe he worked as loss prevention for a Wal-mart in a small town with little organized crime before he was fired for not knowing what the hell he was doing. Thus his belligerent nature towards anyone that has a difference of opinion.

He believes that all shoplifters must be alike and removing more then $200 from a store in one day would be imposable. I believe this is why he could no longer work as an L/P - he’s clueless. I have given examples that a shoplifter, either by themselves or in a group, can make this and more. He still says it is imposable. The internet is full of news stories of shoplifters being caught with 1 , 2, or 11 thousand dollars of merchandise in a day. Yet he is still disillusioned - “Opps that’s retail dollars not ‘real’ cash” he says trying to make a case that’s its still imposable to make $200 a day. [ $1000 - 66% = $340 ] Even selling your goods for a 33% profit = $340.

No matter how I explain the monetary worth of retail redistribution Mr. zooassfan will never accept the truth because of his illiberality.

Now as for my claims -
I have been ‘on record’ on this forum for sometime. Though I will not disclose all of my past deeds, I have brought enough information to the forum to establish a better understanding of my background. My intentions are not to boast about my achievements but to give advice - for or against - someone less knowledgeable of shoplifting. My advice is from personnel experience and the advancement of time. [ If your looking for age - I remember the first moon walk ]


I do not assert to be proud of my past - it is what it is - PAST.
Many roads led me to where I found myself 10 yrs ago. I had many relationships with upper & lower social classes which gave me an edge when my ‘walk on the dark side’ developed.
Was I a ring leader - no, I never thought of it that way. I knew a few people that would buy ‘goods’ and I knew a few people that didn’t mind getting those goods. I was just the guy in the middle. Did I still do my thing - of coarse.

Did I make $20,000 a month?
Honestly - I do not know. There is no office or schedules. Funny thing when you’re a booster you don’t keep a ledger of all your deeds. It’s not hard to do an avg. of what your doing and come up with a rough figure. When your boosting 2,4,6,10 stores everyday, on top of working other deals for people - yes I did quite well. So yes there where times that I more then past the $20000 a month quota and then there were times that I fell well below that number. I was not trying to make production. Of course this was six years ago at the top of my game before it came crashing down on a conviction. Wrote about that before no need to repeat.

Do I believe that some inept individual will find disbelief in these factual accounts.
Yup!

Do I find it humorous that a small timer, which obviously knows little of how a large metropolitan area works, would debate a subject he obvious knows little about or show a desire to comprehend.
Yup!

I would love for this childish banter to end but I am quite sure that Mr. zooassfan will try too degrade or deconstruct me some other way.

When you don’t have any strong substance of your own, you have to demean others.



…Pea…B)-]]> Pea The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 02:50:51 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24659,24659#msg-24659 RF tag deactivator????? (3 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24659,24659#msg-24659 MAG The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 02:27:48 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24654,24654#msg-24654 Ink Tag Removal! HELP (6 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24654,24654#msg-24654 DAimnD The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 02:53:01 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24652,24652#msg-24652 "Best Buy" (15 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24652,24652#msg-24652
I do know that one individual was suspected, and burned at one of their outlets, and they plastered his digital picture at all of the Best Buys on the west coast. So whenever he enters one of these places, he gets the priority "customer service".


Your thoughts?]]> MAG The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 21:24:58 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24648,24648#msg-24648 i have to ask... (7 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24648,24648#msg-24648 InTheGame09 The Art of ShopliftingWed, 11 Nov 2009 18:52:39 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24628,24628#msg-24628 General shoplifting question (16 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24628,24628#msg-24628
1. Walk into the store get a cart throw some shit in it find what you want to steal stash it in a blind spot.

2. Buy the same items that you stashed at another store make sure barcodes are the same.

3. Walk back into the other store later take the shit you stashed but have the receipt for the items on you that you bought at the other store and walk out.

The theory behind this technique is that in the event you get stopped you can whip out the receipt and prove the items are yours.

As he explained it to me it seemed like it would be very hard to catch someone doing this.
Just wondered what thoughts you might have.]]> barnsexxx The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 02:45:23 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24624,24624#msg-24624 Pea exposed as a liar! (HILARIOUS - A MUST READ!) (2 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24624,24624#msg-24624
. The following is from a thread Pea started in the anarchy forum entitled "make a foil bag". I have deconstructed this ridiculous and hilarious post by him for everyone's amusement. Enjoy:

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Pea
Good luck with the bag. I, personally never use to bother with them. Back in the day, I would remove 25 DVD?s at a time, several times a day from different stores.

But pea, I thought you led a shoplifting ring? Shouldn't they have been doing it for you? And wow, 25 DVDs at a time several times a day! Imagine 25 DVDs side by side. That's quite a large bulk of goods to conceal, especially without a bag.

But of course Pea goes on to reveal the mystery of how he concealed such a bulk:

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pea
This is how I did it - go into store w/cart and fill it up with household items. Always made sure I grabbed some masking tape. I would then select the newest DVDs - all 25 of them. Put them in the top part of my cart with a bag of chips and some clothing to help conceal them. Would go down a ?blind? isle and stuff 5 at a time into my pants. 15 in the back 10 in the front.

Oh ok, you just stuffed the 25 DVDs into your waistband at once. Right. But then what do you do about the tags Pea, since you never bothered with foil bags?

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Pea
Went into the bathroom, opened the packages, removed the sensors, and taped them together, 5 at a time so I could tape them to my body. Put all plastic / sensors it the toilet and flushed.

Ok here's where your already weak story loses whatever vestige of credibility it had left. Everyone at some point has opened a DVD. Even when you have a DVD that you've bought, and you're in the comfort of your own house opening it with whatever sharp implement you have available, it's a bitch to get open. DVD packaging is notoriously difficult, noisy, and just a pain in the ass to open. We all know this. And you're saying you sat in a stores bathroom opening 25 DVDs at once with all the noisy cellophane wrappers and sticky adhesive seals? Damn, that must have taken you at least 20 minutes right there, and then you had to peel the EAS tags off the inside, which we all know are stuck with a strong rubber cement type adhesive. That must have taken you another 20 minutes at least to get the tags off. Then, (as if no customer or employees would have walked in the bathroom and heard all the noise by this time) you pull out the masking tape (which you have also concealed and taken into the bathroom - damn your pants must be big!) and begin taping the DVDs to your body. LOL! Again, everyone knows that when you pull masking tape off a roll you get that big noise, *scruuuuutccchh* *scruuuuutccchh* and just how much masking tape are you going to have to pull off to tape 25 DVDs to your body?! Furthermore why do you need to tape them to yourself? You supposedly concealed them in your waistband to get into the bathroom, why not simply put them back in your waistband? You see Pea, how so many things in your stories don't add up? But you say you use tape so that's probably another 20 minutes of noisiness in the bathroom, so all in all that's at least an hour spent in there. Lets imagine that Pea has now opened 25 DVDs, removed the EAS tags, and taped them to his body. Now what?

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Pea
Put all plastic / sensors it the toilet and flushed. Never leave behind anything LP can find.

That's a lot of plastic and sensors, I don't know if the toilet can handle that. Especially now that the government has mandated low flow toilets everywhere. Maybe if you flush ten times or so? Let's hope it doesn't get clogged and that the constant flushing won't draw the attention of an employee. (assuming attention hasn't been drawn to you already from the hour of loud DVD opening and taping you've already done)

Quote
Pea
At this point they are probably watching you

You think?

Quote
Pea
but as long as you didn?t slip, you will walking out the front doors with 25 of the latest DVD taped to you ass.

Unless an LP has seen you conceal the DVDs to begin with. Or has been watching you and sees the DVD sized bulge in your clothes. Or has heard you during the hour spent in the bathroom. Or sees any shred of wrapper or any other number of things. Do you think LPs have to religiously follow the six steps and that they have to 100% see you doing something at all times? That just because you go in a toilet stall (for an hour no less - and making a huge racket) you're safe? There's something called probable cause which you've MORE than given them at this point, even by the stricter corporate standards for making stops. A lot of LPs also have these things called "quotas".

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Pea
there was no store I could not do it in. I was redistributing thousands of DVDs a week.

Yes, because I'm sure there was a huge market for pre-opened DVDs with tape marks on them. You are on hilarious kid Pea, I actually LOLed reading over this whole thing.]]> zooassfan The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 02:56:10 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24614,24614#msg-24614 If you shoplift using tools you are commiting burglary. (8 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24614,24614#msg-24614
Using a tool to break off or disable any anti-theft device is considered burglary. You will be charged with burglary in all 50 states if you if you are caught doing this.

However even with tools one could never make $20,000 per month shoplifting. Shoplifting tends to be a subject that people like to brag and lie about for some reason, but there are realistic expectations for shoplifting. We as shoplifters and LP know what those realistic maximums are, and therefore we know that Pea is full of BS.]]> zooassfan The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 03:10:19 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24612,24612#msg-24612 CHIN (5 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24612,24612#msg-24612$

chin - What happened?
Your last activity was on 08/15/2009 02:47PM.
It is not like you to be quit.

Are you in jail?

Those $20,000 watches finally catch up with you?

hollar !



…Pea…B)-]]> Pea The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 03:03:22 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24591,24591#msg-24591 Does anybody ever feel remorse for once being a shoplifter? (16 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24591,24591#msg-24591 Anonymous User The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 03:04:51 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24581,24581#msg-24581 RFID TAGS (2 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24581,24581#msg-24581Quick question some of you may know a little about.

RFID tags?

I read that they are used to track merchandise while it is still in the store. Although I have stolen a lot of shit that has these tagz installed in them and from a lot of different stores I have never been stopped. I just want to know do they work as I stated and how well? And also what stores might be using this as a loss prevention method?

Thanks a heap!]]> barnsexxx The Art of ShopliftingWed, 07 Oct 2009 04:40:40 -0400 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24554,24554#msg-24554 Am I written up with a criminal record? (14 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24554,24554#msg-24554My question is if they have me on record. Many of their employees saw me many times at the store. I've even returned stuff at the store using my photo ID so they might know my name. Would this affect me from shopping from any other Victoria's Secret or just that one?]]> Anonymous User The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 03:15:28 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24551,24551#msg-24551 love 2 shoplift!!!!!! (3 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24551,24551#msg-24551
It's kinda weird in a way getting hooked all over again, especially since I am an adult now.
Just wanted to say hi and maybe make a few friends to talk to. No one but my wife knows that I do this and we don't discuss it. Don't get me wrong I am not embarassed or ashamed. just like reading all the shoplifting posts and that I'd join up.

Cheers!]]> barnsexxx The Art of ShopliftingThu, 24 Sep 2009 20:32:55 -0400 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24546,24546#msg-24546 New camera systems (9 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24546,24546#msg-24546
Is it true that LP can now rewind to the point your entered the store in like 10 seconds? And use that as a starting point to track you through the whole store? If true I think it should be a law they can only use the old VHS tapes B)]]> Herpes The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 21:47:51 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24537,24537#msg-24537 Stttrrreeeettttcccchhhh (3 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24537,24537#msg-24537 InTheGame09 The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 03:41:16 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24535,24535#msg-24535 Do you use disguises to evade detection???? (4 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24535,24535#msg-24535
What did you do, and were you made?

Also, If you get nabbed wearing a disguise, can you be charged with another crime if caught?

Just curious!!!!!!]]> MAG The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 03:31:05 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24534,24534#msg-24534 New Alpha S3 Xtream Boxes.......WTF? (5 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24534,24534#msg-24534
Anybody have any information on what it would take to open the new xtream boxes?

Just curious, as I do not admit to doing anything illegal, and this information is just for educational, and informational purposes.]]> MAG The Art of ShopliftingThu, 05 Nov 2009 11:38:26 -0500 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24514,24514#msg-24514 clue me in... (11 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24514,24514#msg-24514
So I'm shopping at my store on my off day which I hate to do. I see this meth head on the Mach 3 razor aisle select three $21 razor head packages from the shelf. Guy goes around the next and pockets them and heads out the door. I go out stop him (and since its my day off, I'm feeling generous) get the merchandise back. I say to him, "it's your lucky day, I'm not calling the police just go ahead and go" and I add "by the way I'm advising you not to come back here, this is you're warning". I told the other guys to pull his photo up for reference. Well overe the last 3 weeks this guy has been back at least 3 times a week. Each time he has tried stealinf razors or ink cartridges or has been seen returning items.

My question to you lifters. By letting this guy walk did I make the problem worse? Is he now challenging us to catch him? Or is he an idiot meth head who forgot we even caught him and cut him a break? If it were me I would at least stay away from a store that knows my face for a couple of months. That's just me though.]]> InTheGame09 The Art of ShopliftingSat, 19 Sep 2009 11:11:53 -0400 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24505,24505#msg-24505 Respect (4 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24505,24505#msg-24505 InTheGame09 The Art of ShopliftingMon, 07 Sep 2009 01:29:19 -0400 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24504,24504#msg-24504 >:D< (1 reply)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24504,24504#msg-24504$

Just felt like flipping you off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



...Pea...B)-]]> Pea The Art of ShopliftingSun, 19 Jul 2009 11:11:07 -0400 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24492,24492#msg-24492 Settle a Debate... (11 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24492,24492#msg-24492
Do local SLs talk about specific stores? (Whether security is good or not). I've been in the game awhile and have mixed thoughts on this. My boss is convinced that if we make a ton of stops, then "word gets out". I somewhat disagree. We pull in more than average for our area and I don't see much of a slowdown. The teens have slowed down on hitting us but I still have my list of repeat offenders I'd like to catch.

Do SLs hit more at night? I'm a firm believer that SLs hit at anytime. Granted your typical night crowd may give you more looks if you're profiling, lol, than during the day, I think SLs hit anytime. I've had success during both shifts and had high dollar stops throughout, so I'm not too convinced one period of time is better.

Any thoughts?]]> InTheGame09 The Art of ShopliftingMon, 07 Sep 2009 01:24:00 -0400 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24489,24489#msg-24489 Macy's (11 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24489,24489#msg-24489
Been reading this forum for a while now, and I've not seen anyone mention a few stores in particular...

I was wondering, how do you all go about shoplifting from department stores like Sears, Dillards, Macy's, JCPenney's, etc.

I hate the crap at Target. lol

Chin - what say you! ;)]]> Observer The Art of ShopliftingMon, 27 Jul 2009 00:17:59 -0400 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24463,24463#msg-24463 Removing Security Tags (1 reply)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24463,24463#msg-24463
YouTube - Removing Sercurity Tags



...Pea...B)-]]> Pea The Art of ShopliftingSun, 07 Jun 2009 02:42:24 -0400 http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24459,24459#msg-24459 Level5 welcome back! >:D< (4 replies)http://www.zooass.com/forum/read.php?23,24459,24459#msg-24459$

I see by your post that you now work as a Prosecutor Assistant. Not bad considering you have been out of school for only a little while. Don’t tell me any different, because I remember when you were like the rest of us “dumbasses” and posted on this forum a couple of years back. You were still in school at the time, or so you said. I suppose in this time your knowledge of all things great has consumed your need for civility to those of us with simpler understandings of the justice system.

I do not understand why someone with your grand worldly intelligentsia would lower your pre-eminence with your associations on this here little ‘ol forum?

A few questions if you don’t mind from such a great legal mind.

1) How often would a defendant be ‘pro se’?
Would not a Public Defender (PD) be provided by the courts, if legal counsel could not be afforded by the defendant?

2) How many civil case ever make it to trial?
You sue for 30 million, then settle for 30,000. Your lawyer will take his 1/3 before court cost and you’ll walk with 10 to 15 thousand. Been there, done that. No one wants to go to court!

By-The-Way; Crime does pay well - if done right!
I might live in the margins, but what I have earned in the past from living life on the edge, has surpassed anything that I have had to pay for through the system. This includes time spent in lock down. That’s just me - for someone else it may be different.

I do not come on here to promote ill will against others or go ball bashing with my cock is bigger then yours attitude. I’ll call it as I see it - and along the way try and help others with my experience so they may improve their lives.

You came into this forum with a mightier then thou attitude.
Keep it - we do not need it!
Post like a man of you education should. A well thought out intelligent argument.
jjjee is gone, you need not stoop to his level any longer.



…Pea…B)-]]> Pea The Art of ShopliftingThu, 11 Jun 2009 09:35:39 -0400